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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:01 am    Post subject: FULOP MAILER Reply with quote

did anyone else get this in the mail? curious. I am no fan but I got to give credit on this
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Everyone knows Steve Fulop is behind these personal attacks against Sonia. At this point, even developers know, and they are not pleased with him. Steve's minions are the people going crazy posting on this board, at Steve's urging. Notice how manic they went last night when his elect reports were made public on the NWA board.

So, now that he's exposed, will Steve pull back his goons? Or will he wait until some of these posts become public, giving the rest of Jersey City a very bad impression of him.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh by the way, I didn't get the memo -- yet.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 10:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

exactly how did "we" minions go "manic" Jake/Sonia? - i've seen the elect reports for Fulop, and so far as what Sonia posted, they show nothing incriminating. The single document in no way sourced the contributions he has received, just that his campaign receiver roughly $220K. Please articulate to me how Fulop is now "exposed".

The victory party is a little premature, no?

What i *truly* enjoyed was Sonia's bullshit response to another NWA person (one of the three that aren't her?) at the suggestion of publishing all of the council members' elect reports. Completely shot down as irrelevant. Because she's not witch-hunting anybody other than Fulop and Mariano, right?

Here's the lovely little exchange I'm talking about:

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nnjrjc
Junior member

Re: Steven Fulop's Elect Reports

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Would it be possible to post the other council members elect reports? I realize they don't specifically represent Newport however they do vote on matters that affect Newport and it is useful information for all the residents of Jersey City.

Thanks.

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Sonia
NWA President

Re: Steven Fulop's Elect Reports

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nnjrjc,

Mainly there are two council people we are concerned with, Ward E Councilman Steven Fulop, and Council President Mariano Vega. Due to time constraints, and relevancy concerns, I'm not going to review every one else's reports, and see no reason to post them on this bulletin board. As it is, this is going to be a time consuming project, requiring going through months of reports to pull information onto a main spread sheet for the two people under examination. This analysis should be completed before we can start going deeper into discovery, and seeking further information. The focus here is on Vega and Fulop's political contributions because of their aggressive involvement in the Washington Street matter, as well as the fact that they are now subject to discovery. If we find any of the other council person's reports are necessary, we will include them.

As a side issue, Steve Fulop, as our Ward E Councilman, has an obligation to us to be transparent with his political finances. This gives him the opportunity to show his constituents who contributed to his campaign fund, and how he spent the money.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Developer money Reply with quote

All of Fulop's ELEC reports tell an interesting story. One of greed and using his public office to enrich himself.

Yes, Fulop took developer money, but only after he was elected. But what no one talks about are the outstanding loans he gave to his election fund during the campaign.

Fulop raised money from Developers after he was elected to pay himself back for his pwn personal campaign debt, so he wouldn't be out of pocket any money and recoup what he spent to get himself elected.

He used his office as councilman, to raise money then pay himself back. Fulop is no better than the people he preaches against.

Fulop is a phoney!

While not illegal, it certainly raises concerns of using his office for personal enrichment and questions his real agenda.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NonJake2 (any relation to NONdowntowner),

Oh, was that you? So, you think Sonia is witchhunting Mariano Vega as well. Now why is she witch hunting these two specific councilmen, Vega and Fulop? Do you think maybe she has reason to believe they took bribes? But we're sure you have some other positions to put forth.

You ask how you went manic Take a look at all the irrational posts your people made on this board last night. We stayed away. We got an email not to come here because your reaction to the elect reports was expected. Sure enough, she was right. You are even trying to downplay the amount of money Fulop raised.

Fulop raised $230K, and he spent all of it, $230K, on his $22K council seat. Doesn't that sound excessive? Where did all the money go? This, and other questions must be answered in the months to come. We want to see the details.

As an afterthought I'll add, I see no reason for a victory party here, there's nothing to celebrate.
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Greed is Good is Stupid
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 11:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fulop used about 100k of his own money to finance his campaign, which was a longshot. Junior M was well entrenched.

So what is your problem? Fulop doesn't have a right to recoup his own money? He has mentioned in public - I have heard it with my own ears, that he was trying to get contributions to pay himself back for those loans.

Would you be happier if the HCDO was giving him money, or if he had a big do nothing county job like others on the council?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically, Fulop campaigned on the claim he wasn't going to take developer money. Basically, it appears he hid that fact in his early reports, and later revealed it as he had to in later reports.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 12:52 pm    Post subject: Most of you Downtown Yuppies are as stupid as stumps Reply with quote

Newport Resident wrote, in part,

"Fulop raised $230K, and he spent all of it, $230K, on his $22K council seat. Doesn't that sound excessive? Where did all the money go? This, and other questions must be answered in the months to come. We want to see the details."

Why don't you ask Corzine the same thing? How many MILLIONS, did he spend?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Brother,

Corzine doesn't hold a $22K council seat. He doesn't lie to the public about taking contributions from Developers. He also spent his own millions on his campaign, without getting paid back by developers.

When you consider the $230K Fulop received, it's obvious the developers bankrolled his activities, including any gifts he gave to charity. It's easy to give away someone else's money.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

omigodbbg i gotta email laste last nite in my dreams from the evil pototoe wizardlady she said to my kidneystone YOU SHALL NOT PASS but it didn't listen to her but apparently you dumb rocks do whatevethis kook tells you. as if anybody who lrents in Newport actually gave a whit about her evil little obsession. go build a bridge lady!!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Developer money Reply with quote

Greed is Good wrote:
All of Fulop's ELEC reports tell an interesting story. One of greed and using his public office to enrich himself.

Yes, Fulop took developer money, but only after he was elected. But what no one talks about are the outstanding loans he gave to his election fund during the campaign.

Fulop raised money from Developers after he was elected to pay himself back for his pwn personal campaign debt, so he wouldn't be out of pocket any money and recoup what he spent to get himself elected.

He used his office as councilman, to raise money then pay himself back. Fulop is no better than the people he preaches against.

Fulop is a phoney!

While not illegal, it certainly raises concerns of using his office for personal enrichment and questions his real agenda.


Without provocation, Fulop and his goons planned, and orchestrated the personal attacks against Ms. Maldonado in hopes of getting her to stop the Washington Street litigation, and related examination of his financial records. They want a COVER-UP.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Developer money Reply with quote

guest wrote:
Greed is Good wrote:
All of Fulop's ELEC reports tell an interesting story. One of greed and using his public office to enrich himself.

Yes, Fulop took developer money, but only after he was elected. But what no one talks about are the outstanding loans he gave to his election fund during the campaign.

Fulop raised money from Developers after he was elected to pay himself back for his pwn personal campaign debt, so he wouldn't be out of pocket any money and recoup what he spent to get himself elected.

He used his office as councilman, to raise money then pay himself back. Fulop is no better than the people he preaches against.

Fulop is a phoney!

While not illegal, it certainly raises concerns of using his office for personal enrichment and questions his real agenda.


Without provocation, Fulop and his goons planned, and orchestrated the personal attacks against Ms. Maldonado in hopes of getting her to stop the Washington Street litigation, and related examination of his financial records. They want a COVER-UP.


Wrong again jerky (or should I say Sonia?)......with MUCH provocation and without any action in word, thought or deed from Fulop, people began posting on JCList and Getnj that, in their opinion, the rotund one is a controlling, pompous, dissembling, paranoid, vendetta driven, schizophrenic, nasty, ugly, fat, dissent deleting, untrustworthy, self-deluded, third person speaking, sock puppet using ass. Now the whole world may be wrong about her, but ya gotta wonder. The funniest thing is watching the socks change and come out to defend her(self).

Most people don't give a damn about Fulop, Sonia or the bollards, but they find her a ridiculous and amusing person(s).
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I saw Fulop once from about 30 feet away at a city council meeting. That's as close as I ever got to him- I actually voted for the socialist worker's party candidate, just so that I could say that I voted for the socialist worker's party candidate.

I suppose the reasons that Malpreparado thinks that we are all tools engaged in a vast conspiracy directed by Steve Fulop are twofold:

1- She herself works through sockpuppets in backhanded and "conspiracy" minded ways. So it would make sense to her, who often pops up on boards like this and uses alternate identities to say "[I] am the greatest thing since sliced bread" and "[my enemies] are bad bad bad!, as well as being possibly homosexual, and canibalistic" , that other people would be doing the same thing. What she fails to understand, perhaps wilfully or perhaps not, is that there is a large group of actually existing people who don't like her. they don't like her because she's attempts to bully them by threatening lawsuits, when unfortunately for her most of us have more than a pasing familiarity with the law, so that's out. She also attempts (badly) to insult us, but she and her associates (if they actually are real, which I doubt) generally lack wit, and insult in a boring and uninspiring way. "slimy toad" was it? How utterly uninteresting an insult that is. You should try something more inventive, like constantly misspelling my name in ways that mean something in Spanish. Or you could simply insult what I am actually saying. Oh, you can't, because I'm right.

So sorry.


2- The second reason that this conspiracy theory is likely favored by her is that it inflates her ego. She can pretend, to herself and others, that she is in fact important enough to be conspired against. But here is the problem, she shows up making noise all over the city enough to occasionally get her name in the papers, but holds no elective position, and never will. She claims to speak on behalf of an entire neighborhood, but isi only president of a bogus association that the other neighborhood coalitions won't associate with because it is unrepresentative, murkily organized, and led in a way that would be tyranical if it were not so profound a source of mirth.

If the queen of Newport wants to get into JC politics, she must eventually realize that obviously looking down on folks that are obviously superior in intellect and character to you is not a good idea. If she wants to be a politician (which it is obvious she oh so desperately wants) then you at elast ahve to play the game. Also, slagging gay people ain't such a good idea either. It not only declares your parochiality, it also offends a large demographic that votes. Also it's low class.

Again, boasting about making a lot of money alienates folks who don't, and whining about being a put upon minority irritates folks who get irritated by that sort of thing.

Essentially, it seems to me that she has bad things to say about virtually everyone, and by the way, they ought to naturally defer to her leadership regardless.

Sorry babe, that dog won't hunt.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2007 5:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Developer money Reply with quote

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quote="Anonymous"]
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Greed is Good wrote:
All of Fulop's ELEC reports tell an interesting story. One of greed and using his public office to enrich himself.

Yes, Fulop took developer money, but only after he was elected. But what no one talks about are the outstanding loans he gave to his election fund during the campaign.

Fulop raised money from Developers after he was elected to pay himself back for his pwn personal campaign debt, so he wouldn't be out of pocket any money and recoup what he spent to get himself elected.

He used his office as councilman, to raise money then pay himself back. Fulop is no better than the people he preaches against.

Fulop is a phoney!

While not illegal, it certainly raises concerns of using his office for personal enrichment and questions his real agenda.


Without provocation, Fulop and his goons planned, and orchestrated the personal attacks against Ms. Maldonado in hopes of getting her to stop the Washington Street litigation, and related examination of his financial records. They want a COVER-UP.


Wrong again jerky (or should I say Sonia?)......with MUCH provocation and without any action in word, thought or deed from Fulop, people began posting on JCList and Getnj that, in their opinion, the rotund one is a controlling, pompous, dissembling, paranoid, vendetta driven, schizophrenic, nasty, ugly, fat, dissent deleting, untrustworthy, self-deluded, third person speaking, sock puppet using ass. Now the whole world may be wrong about her, but ya gotta wonder. The funniest thing is watching the socks change and come out to defend her(self).

Most people don't give a damn about Fulop, Sonia or the bollards, but they find her a ridiculous and amusing person(s).
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You got it wrong, Fulop Ass kisser. I'm not Sonia, but unlike you I've actually met her, and like her. You are clearly green with envy. Wouldn't you just love to take over the very popular NWA bulletin board, with it's one million plus hits each month, and 1,500 registered board members. So she banned you, get over it. She gets to run that bulletin board as she pleases, she's the Administrator, not you. She's not telling you, Anthony or anyone else how to run their board, she deserves to be treated the same.

She's also the President of the NWA, and despite you claims of sockpuppets, that association has over 1,000 members, who will continue to visit the NWA board because they need the association to represent them with the Lefrak organization, the businesses in the area, and governmental authorities. What you fail to comprehend is that it takes plenty of time, and money to run an association like the NWA. The person who heads it up, must be multi-skilled, and dedicated to making it work. The NWA is in its seventh year of operation, and it is a success story because of the woman whose tireless efforts have made it work to the benefit of our community.

It seems to make you feel good to come on this board, hide behind an alias, and disparage Sonia. Your life must be little, and meaningless if this is all that can spark passion in you. As far as we're concerned any opinion you voice on this board is totally irrelevant. In fact, you are as irrelevant as Dan Falcon is in Newport. Oh by the way Dan, thanks for visiting the NWA board earlier today, you left your work IP address.

Ms. Maldonado is not out to win a popularity contest. She's too busy to care if you like her, and there are so many people in Newport who do like her, and are her friends. She really doesn't miss your vote of confidence.
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